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NONSENSE: Conspiracy theories, nonsense and cranks (not exclusive)

Brother in law, he’s in the system yes. Had to go to extraordinary lengths to actually get to a diagnosis though and was lucky enough to be involved in professional sport which eventually enabled him to get in front of the right medical people to get it written down. Might not live long enough to see the paltry amount but at least he has that recognition of his injuries unlike many a poor bastard.

Yeah thought it was you mate, sorry to hear what he’s going through.

I was reading something earlier about the vaccine damage payment system (think that’s what it was called) which showed varying degrees of payment, think the cap was £140k and isn’t referred to as compensation…assume because that would imply culpability from the government as that’s who’s paying out given all vaccine manufacturers had indemnity.
 
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30M+ excess deaths according to this report.

 
Covid thread locked 🤭🤭🤭

Interestingly the COVID enquiry thread has gone too.

I guess any new information gets posted on the main thread then where most people can see any important information updates… 👍
 
Interestingly the COVID enquiry thread has gone too.

I guess any new information gets posted on the main thread then where most people can see any important information updates… 👍
it got removed after I mentioned to someone on another thread to check the Covid Enquiry thread.
 
Nothing has been removed. It was all merged with this thread cos only cranks seem to be posting on it...
 
Nothing has been removed. It was all merged with this thread cos only cranks seem to be posting on it...
The original bannings on the Covid thread were out of order, now closing the Covid thread is, as is calling people cranks wanting to discuss the whole issue.

Which now seems it wasn’t as black and white as people were making out originally.
 
The original bannings on the Covid thread were out of order, now closing the Covid thread is, as is calling people cranks wanting to discuss the whole issue.

Which now seems it wasn’t as black and white as people were making out originally.
The original covid thread has been closed for months...

The enquiry thread was merged with this one cos lately it's only been 3 or 4 people spouting

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Says it all really.

Nobody is thread banned from anything at the moment, so lets keep it that way.
 
The original bannings on the Covid thread were out of order, now closing the Covid thread is, as is calling people cranks wanting to discuss the whole issue.

Which now seems it wasn’t as black and white as people were making out originally.

Exactly.

You've got this one wrong I'm afraid Julie, I know you mean well but so do we...!.

There's a vaccine damages scheme for a reason. https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment

The AZ vaccine was removed from use for a reason - the same one that various countries also banned

Given the above I'm not sure how you justify labelling people as cranks.

Also think referring to someone posting about their own brother being vaccine damaged as a crank is a bit off.
 
Exactly.

You've got this one wrong I'm afraid Julie, I know you mean well but so do we...!.

There's a vaccine damages scheme for a reason. https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment

The AZ vaccine was removed from use for a reason - the same one that various countries also banned

Given the above I'm not sure how you justify labelling people as cranks.

Also think referring to someone posting about their own brother being vaccine damaged as a crank is a bit off.
Nobody is stopping you posting on this thread are they?

As for calling specific members a crank, I was pointing out the number of posts on this thread, not labelling people as such. If it makes you feel any better I can edit the title.



I would love to know what your response to Wilmslow Red would be? It's your response to that type of post that scares me, hence me keeping it over here where you can still post but it's not in peoples faces.

My Dad had a quadruple at the MRI following a heart attack in 2019 and whilst the recovery is slow initially he definitely improved significantly in the year after it and was able to walk much further and be more active, sadly 2020 came around the following year and he contracted covid and died within 2 weeks, I'm convinced if covid hadn't happened or the vaccine had been ready by the time he caught it he'd be still here now.
 
Nobody is stopping you posting on this thread are they?

As for calling specific members a crank, I was pointing out the number of posts on this thread, not labelling people as such. If it makes you feel any better I can edit the title.



I would love to know what your response to Wilmslow Red would be? It's your response to that type of post that scares me, hence me keeping it over here where you can still post but it's not in peoples faces.
Covid saw off many vulnerable people but many people have been damaged by the vaccines , my previously super fit brother in law being one of them.
 
Nothing has been removed. It was all merged with this thread cos only cranks seem to be posting on it...
Seems like anyone with an alternative opinion is being labelled a crank to me, despite evidence to back up those long held fears.
 
Nobody is stopping you posting on this thread are they?

As for calling specific members a crank, I was pointing out the number of posts on this thread, not labelling people as such. If it makes you feel any better I can edit the title.



I would love to know what your response to Wilmslow Red would be? It's your response to that type of post that scares me, hence me keeping it over here where you can still post but it's not in peoples faces.
I would love to know what people like you think of my brother suddenly being told he has a heart condition along with another friend of mine dying in their sleep both early 40s. Not allowed to speculate that it's the mRNA vaccine though because fuckwits who spent 2 years demanding more restrictions and shouting down any opposition would rather carry on in ignorance than face up to being conned by an aggressive pharmaceutical industry that owns our political class. You quote that post like it's supposed to mean anything, and that vaccines prevent people from getting covid? There have been people having 5 shots of this shit and are still signed off days at a time with covid so how is that supposed to prove that a vaccine would have saved someone back in 2020? All we have to do is accept that "it would have been worse without the vaccine", not that it would have prevented it. Another friend of mine, his father died, and his last memories of him are a voicemail he received moaning about how much pain he was in. He wasn't allowed to visit despite having had 3 shots of the vaccine. How the fuck does that make any sense?

31 million excess deaths in a 3 year period and statistically demonstrated it cannot be put down to a viral infection
 
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Nobody is stopping you posting on this thread are they?

As for calling specific members a crank, I was pointing out the number of posts on this thread, not labelling people as such. If it makes you feel any better I can edit the title.



I would love to know what your response to Wilmslow Red would be? It's your response to that type of post that scares me, hence me keeping it over here where you can still post but it's not in peoples faces.

I don't think anybody would find Wilmslow Red's experience anything other than heart breaking and be empathetic towards them. At the same time, it is fair to acknowledge that they, and all of us have been grossly misled regarding the safety and efficacy of the mRNA vaccines in particular. These are not mutually exclusive things, and we shouldn't have to stick our collective heads in the sand and pretend that this is not the case. It's ok to admit that we were wrong. It's ok to admit that we were misled, criminally. By people that should have known better.

Interesting reading Fergie's & Catch-33's accounts above, I also know somebody, who was highly likely killed by the Pfizer vaccine, dropping dead by the poolside while on holiday with his family in Italy in the summer of 2021. They'd originally had the Sinopharm vaccination, but had to take Pfizer shortly before their trip, because Sinpharm was not recognised internationally. They tested negative for COVID prior to their travels to get on the plane, so it wasn't the virus. They were as fit as a fiddle and ran 10ks regularly.

The use of the 'anti vax' and 'crank' terms on this forum, by people with zero scientific academic background are pejorative, and completely undermine people like me, who has a Bachelor's Degree in Bioinformatics, and whose study was specifically DNA transcription, mRNA translation, genomic & proteomic analysis & sequencing.

Moderna scientists have already acknowledged this year in publication that unacceptable toxicity is in their mRNA products. This is information that should have been made available to the public in late 2020 and early 2021, as part of an informed consent, so that people could make an informed, risk : benefit choice about taking them. That people were bullied, coerced and shamed into taking them, by their government, by their health authorities, by the media, by their peers, is an absolute disgrace, particularly given the lack of long term clinical safety data at the time. Lessons need to be learned by all, so that we are more informed and considered in our thought processes and actions in the event another health event occurs in the future.
 
My mates Uncle went into hospital early doors on this, wasn’t in the best of health being diabetic, was diagnosed as having C-Diff (staph infection), ended up passing away and they slapped Covid down as cause of death.

Another mate of mine lost sight in one eye not long after taking the vax, which he only took so he could see his Mum who was in her 80’s, he’s since had an Aneuryism, fit and healthy beforehand.

The frustrating bit on here is really important info has been shared right since the start of all this and unfortunately someone has disagreed and moved or deleted those posts, I understand this was probably well meaning but still, all we were doing was trying to help.

@Julie i’d echo Kroms comments regarding Wilmslow Red, I’m a respectful person, all deaths are tragic.
 
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A mate of mine used to call me a crank, even after watching that 17 year old lad drop ‘ dead ‘ at football ( only saved by multiple blasts of the defib and an adrenaline shot). He finally changed his mind when his wife’s mate dropped dead after her booster at 47 years of age. Many people can now tell tales like this and it’s about time all this censorship nonsense on here stopped, it’s pathetic.
 
A mate of mine used to call me a crank, even after watching that 17 year old lad drop ‘ dead ‘ at football ( only saved by multiple blasts of the defib and an adrenaline shot). He finally changed his mind when his wife’s mate dropped dead after her booster at 47 years of age. Many people can now tell tales like this and it’s about time all this censorship nonsense on here stopped, it’s pathetic.
Nothing is being censored and nobody is banned from this thread.

Even if they were, our terms are perfectly clear.


There are plenty of other forums where you would have a much wider audience
 
Nothing is being censored and nobody is banned from this thread.

Even if they were, our terms are perfectly clear.


There are plenty of other forums where you would have a much wider audience
That’s a disingenuous response really isn’t it given our posts have been moved to a thread called ‘Conspiracy theories, nonsense and cranks’ in a section nobody really looks at.

I’d love to know what we’ve posted that is nonsense on this topic.
 
That’s a disingenuous response really isn’t it given our posts have been moved to a thread called ‘Conspiracy theories, nonsense and cranks’ in a section nobody really looks at.

I’d love to know what we’ve posted that is nonsense on this topic.
Not enough hours in the day for that...

Plus I have a sick Mum to care for, but hey I bet her cancer was caused by the jabs she had yeah :rolleyes:

I'll leave you to it.
 
Nothing is being censored and nobody is banned from this thread.

Even if they were, our terms are perfectly clear.


There are plenty of other forums where you would have a much wider audience
Having read those terms it’s clear that they don’t always apply to everyone.
 
Not enough hours in the day for that...

Plus I have a sick Mum to care for, but hey I bet her cancer was caused by the jabs she had yeah :rolleyes:

I'll leave you to it.

What a weird thing to have a pop at me for.

I’ve no idea what caused your Mums cancer, but I wish her (and you) all the best in dealing with it, get her on Keto for starters.
 
Nano tech has been suspected for a while and this would appear to confirm it. The study is peer reviewed which is what people seem to demand so what’s going on here or is this just more crank nonsense?
 
Seen those structures before, carbon/graphene nanotubes.

Those sine wave looking ones in the vid are on here.


There’s plenty of vids out there showing self assembly of graphene nanotech

Maybe something to do with Gates’ patent number 2020060606 which contained a sensor within the body, the sine wave looking one is named ‘nano sensor’ in the link above…

Here’s that patent.

 
Seen those structures before, carbon/graphene nanotubes.

Those sine wave looking ones in the vid are on here.


There’s plenty of vids out there showing self assembly of graphene nanotech

Maybe something to do with Gates’ patent number 2020060606 which contained a sensor within the body, the sine wave looking one is named ‘nano sensor’ in the link above…

Here’s that patent.

These things have been noted before but been dismissed, always seemed a bit out there to be honest, peer reviewed study shows that it’s a genuine phenomena now though. What’s the purpose of these things ?
 
These things have been noted before but been dismissed, always seemed a bit out there to be honest, peer reviewed study shows that it’s a genuine phenomena now though. What’s the purpose of these things ?

The 666 patent number is interesting eh!

Gates has invested in some interesting companies, it’s been a while since I looked at donations but there was a US company with a product that enabled chips encased in their product to be implanted and not be attacked by the body, aerogel or something and from memory there was an example showing a sensor which emitted bioluminescence.

He was also heavily behind 2 of the vaccines, funnily enough the ones mentioned in the John Campbell vid you posted…
 
The 666 patent number is interesting eh!

Gates has invested in some interesting companies, it’s been a while since I looked at donations but there was a US company with a product that enabled chips encased in their product to be implanted and not be attacked by the body, aerogel or something and from memory there was an example showing a sensor which emitted bioluminescence.

He was also heavily behind 2 of the vaccines, funnily enough the ones mentioned in the John Campbell vid you posted…
Isn’t there any medical benefit from this though or perceived? What happened to their being nothing extraordinary in the jabs? How many would have still eagerly queued up for these jabs if they had known? Doesn’t this fall under informed consent? How many will readily trust their GP now after being encouraged to have these “ just in case “ as mine said to me?
 
Isn’t there any medical benefit from this though or perceived? What happened to their being nothing extraordinary in the jabs? How many would have still eagerly queued up for these jabs if they had known? Doesn’t this fall under informed consent? How many will readily trust their GP now after being encouraged to have these “ just in case “ as mine said to me?
If I recall they wouldn’t release fully what was in them, again from memory something about proprietary / patented technology?

In terms of Informed consent there was a report on one of the big medical sites, that the risks were “obfuscated” so people had insufficient informed consent.

I’ve had a quick look for it but couldn’t find it, I was searching for the word obfuscated as it stuck in my head given it’s another word for making something unreadable.

I would’ve posted it on here at the time but who knows if those posts are still up given how many threads were moved or deleted.
 
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Found something which says the same on NIH's site @fergieschewy

Results of the study​

COVID‐19 vaccines designed to elicit neutralising antibodies may sensitise vaccine recipients to more severe disease than if they were not vaccinated. Vaccines for SARS, MERS and RSV have never been approved, and the data generated in the development and testing of these vaccines suggest a serious mechanistic concern: that vaccines designed empirically using the traditional approach (consisting of the unmodified or minimally modified coronavirus viral spike to elicit neutralising antibodies), be they composed of protein, viral vector, DNA or RNA and irrespective of delivery method, may worsen COVID‐19 disease via antibody‐dependent enhancement (ADE). This risk is sufficiently obscured in clinical trial protocols and consent forms for ongoing COVID‐19 vaccine trials that adequate patient comprehension of this risk is unlikely to occur, obviating truly informed consent by subjects in these trials.

CONCLUSION​

Given the strong evidence that ADE is a non‐theoretical and compelling risk for COVID‐19 vaccines and the “laundry list” nature of informed consents, disclosure of the specific risk of worsened COVID‐19 disease from vaccination calls for a specific, separate, informed consent form and demonstration of patient comprehension in order to meet medical ethics standards. The informed consent process for ongoing COVID‐19 vaccine trials does not appear to meet this standard. While the COVID‐19 global health emergency justifies accelerated vaccine trials of candidates with known liabilities, such an acceleration is not inconsistent with additional attention paid to heightened informed consent procedures specific to COVID‐19 vaccine risks.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7645850/

So, insufficient informed consent.
 
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