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Did someone here say that out of the many thousands who have died in Italy. only 12% were CV related?
What was the source?
 
Just said on Good morning that some scumbag has punched a nurse in the face fracturing their jaw, at Salford Royal:mad:
 
gorton 68 said:
Just said on Good morning that some scumbag has punched a nurse in the face fracturing their jaw, at Salford Royal:mad:
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this cunt?

Greater Manchester Police
@gmpolice

#Charged | Man charged after a member of NHS staff was assaulted and left with a fractured cheekbone in Salford.

Daniel Shevlin (29/04/1992), has been charged with one count of section 20 assault and will appear at Manchester & Salford Magistrates’ Court today (30/03/2020).
 
Bazza said:
Did someone here say that out of the many thousands who have died in Italy. only 12% were CV related?
What was the source?
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When they announce the daily death figures they don't actually say people who died of Covid. They say people that died after testing positive for Covid. We're taking about mostly old/unwell people so difficult to be definitive I'd imagine.
 
repofmanc said:
Was out and about and crashed his car into someone else - allegedly

Morgan making a massive deal of it but going out isn’t against any rules - the guys got to go to the shop I presume like everyone else...if there’s anything more sinister going on then fair enough
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Was at 8am supposidly drunk and on all sorts after an all nighter with mates, then fled the scene
 
After yesterday's gloomy stories about six months worth of restrictions, I note today there's good news about F1 ventilators, the rate of deaths just about slowing down and the testing kits "hopefully within days" according to that Prof Neil Ferguson fella.

Don't think this is accidental.
 
Some goodish news

"A breathing aid that should help keep Covid-19 patients out of intensive care has reportedly been developed by a group including University College London researchers and the Mercedes Formula One team - read the full story here.

Early reports from Lombardy in Italy suggest around half of patients given the aid - which delivers oxygen to the lungs without the need for a ventilator and patient sedation - have avoided the need for invasive mechanical ventilation in intensive car"

The coronavirus epidemic in the UK appears to be starting to slow down, a scientist who has been advising the Government on the outbreak has said.

Professor Neil Ferguson, of Imperial College London, said the slowing of the spread of Covid-19 was the result of the social distancing measures brought in by the Government.

"In the UK we can see some early signs of slowing in some indicators - less so deaths because deaths are lagged by a long time from when measures come in force," he told the BBC Radio 4 Today programme.

"But if we look at the numbers of new hospital admissions, that does appear to be slowing down a bit now.

"It has not yet plateaued, so still the numbers can be increasing each day but the rate of that increase has slowed."
 
Bazza said:
Did someone here say that out of the many thousands who have died in Italy. only 12% were CV related?
What was the source?
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It's almost impossible to quantify. Let's say you have renal problems, you contract Covid 19, and the extra stress on your body causes complete renal failure and you die... Did you die of Covid 19, or from your existing renal problems?

This is why people with underlying issues are so high risk. The extra burden finishes you off.

If you didn't have those problems chances are you'd make it through.
 
Mercedes F1's engine team were involved and basically it's just an air pump - a suitable fan would be sufficient. It just blows normal air through a tube in to a mask. There is a bit of control electronics to allow the appropriate air pressure to be achieved in the lungs. It's about as simple a "ventilator" as you can get - indeed it's not technically a ventilator at all.

I'd guess that Mercedes are just providing the manufacturing facilities as they can rapid prototype stuff etc. The actual device has been designed by the academics who reverse engineered an existing machine, and in this case its a Sleep Apnea device
 
HU said:
Daughter has just got home with some antibiotics for a chest infection. They said they weren’t testing unless critical.

I’m just happy she is back home at her mums.

Thanks for all your support.
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Pleased to here she is out of hospital and has medication.
 
Do any of these people put on ventilators actually survive or is it just keeping them alive for a few days more?
 
vcmph said:
Do any of these people put on ventilators actually survive or is it just keeping them alive for a few days more?
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Plenty survive. Especially the under 60s.

Under 40s nearly all survive (99%+)

There is no medicine to fight the virus. The ventilators help you to breath in order to assist your body to defeat the virus using your own immune system.
 
vcmph said:
Do any of these people put on ventilators actually survive or is it just keeping them alive for a few days more?
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The husband of someone my wife knows has been on one for most of last week and they're trying to wean him off of it. It can be a bit two steps forward and one step back. Some people will recover, some won't. Which is understandable and normal as you have to be very ill to have ended up on one in the first place.
 
Cummings has it now
 
Cowpie1975 said:
Cummings has it now
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If what was reporting regarding his quote stating that they should sodd the lives of old people for the sake of the economy, fuck him. It's a bed he's made.
 
MattShez said:
If what was reporting regarding his quote stating that they should sodd the lives of old people for the sake of the economy, fuck him. It's a bed he's made.
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He had an operation not so long ago, didn't he?

At least it proves CV19 can be passed back to animals from humans.
 
Something not right about all this. Benefits of lockdown don't outweigh the damage to the economy, our way of life etc imo.
This will start to be challenged more and more the longer it goes on, particularly when the warm weather arrives May / June.

Unless of course there's something we're not being told. And why isn't the rest of the world kicking off with China whose fault this is?
 
Alice Ayres said:
Something not right about all this. Benefits of lockdown don't outweigh the damage to the economy, our way of life etc imo.
This will start to be challenged more and more the longer it goes on, particularly when the warm weather arrives May / June.

Unless of course there's something we're not being told. And why isn't the rest of the world kicking off with China whose fault this is?
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Needs to be a balance.
At the moment the lockdown is very useful as it bides times to allow the government can build ventilators, new hospitals, extra NHS staff etc so they can stretch out the number of peak infections.
When the numbers of new cases starts dropping the NHS should have build the correct infrastructure in order to be able to cope with more cases and therefore the lockdown can be eased.
Hopefully will be closer to 3 than 6 months.
 
Alice Ayres said:
Something not right about all this. Benefits of lockdown don't outweigh the damage to the economy, our way of life etc imo.
This will start to be challenged more and more the longer it goes on, particularly when the warm weather arrives May / June.

Unless of course there's something we're not being told. And why isn't the rest of the world kicking off with China whose fault this is?
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The economy will bounce quickly back when unleashed, what price do you put on someone’s death? Me thinks your a selfish knob.
 
Alice Ayres said:
Something not right about all this. Benefits of lockdown don't outweigh the damage to the economy, our way of life etc imo.
This will start to be challenged more and more the longer it goes on, particularly when the warm weather arrives May / June.

Unless of course there's something we're not being told. And why isn't the rest of the world kicking off with China whose fault this is?
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I think once it's all over, and each country has to clean up its financial mess, and count the dead, that's when the blame game starts, at the moment with people dying all over the place, its probably a bit insensitive to start blaming countries.
 
Alice Ayres said:
Something not right about all this. Benefits of lockdown don't outweigh the damage to the economy, our way of life etc imo.
This will start to be challenged more and more the longer it goes on, particularly when the warm weather arrives May / June.

Unless of course there's something we're not being told. And why isn't the rest of the world kicking off with China whose fault this is?
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Belarus are bravely conducting this experiment on our behalf.

Let’s see where they are in 2/3 weeks.
 
Alice Ayres said:
Did you read the Guardian article linked up yesterday? Many experts don't agree with what's happening. Btw it's "you're"
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100% of people might not agree but this is what we're doing for now. There is no golden option that doesn't have some fairly significant downsides.
 
Not just Belarus, Sweden too, China's numbers do not stack up, and those markets are still as they were. Their leaders have maximised the political part of this and do need to be held into account, will we have the balls to put a corona tax on all things Chinese made?

The WHO needs a reform clearly, and we need a complete review of travel once these pandemics are called, in short we're all going to pay more for everything for another 5 years at least

But the immediate health and saving of lives is more important than anything at the moment

Have we banned flights from Sweden or Belarus yet ?
 
Roly Poly said:
Not just Belarus, Sweden too, China's numbers do not stack up, and those markets are still as they were. Their leaders have maximised the political part of this and do need to be held into account, will we have the balls to put a corona tax on all things Chinese made?

The WHO needs a reform clearly, and we need a complete review of travel once these pandemics are called, in short we're all going to pay more for everything for another 5 years at least

But the immediate health and saving of lives is more important than anything at the moment

Have we banned flights from Sweden or Belarus yet ?
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We haven't banned flying from or to anywhere ourselves.
 
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