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NONSENSE: Conspiracy theories, nonsense and cranks

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The recent developments in Norway and Denmark are clear evidence that this has nothing to do with fighting some virus. It has everything to do with forcing in police state measures.

"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before".
-Rahm Emanuel
 
Conspiracy theories and cranks

Anyone started a sweepstake on the final death toll? (UK only)
 
moved

What if China created this virus having already made an antidote with the intention of fucking up western economies? Russia doesn't have many deaths (ally of China)
Doesn't seem to be widespread across China either which is surprising
 
moved

Maybe China created the virus having also made an antidote with the intention of fucking up western economies?
Russia has very few deaths and the virus hasn't spread widely throughout China which is surprising
 
Maybe China created the virus having also made an antidote with the intention of fucking up western economies?
Russia has very few deaths and the virus hasn't spread widely throughout China which is surprising

:eek:

first time I've seen this theory
 
I've posted twice about China causing this virus intentionally both of which were removed along with a reply :rolleyes:

No way!

This virus has potentially harmed them more than anyone else; it makes no sense.:confused:
 
No way!

This virus has potentially harmed them more than anyone else; it makes no sense.:confused:

What if they created the antidote at the same time? Doesn't seem to have spread much outside Wuhan
 
moved

Not gloating but if anyone that thinks this isn't funny must be mad.

The very cunts telling everyone else to keep apart have got it themselves and probably passed it on to hundreds of others.

Of course, Corbyn and Labour wouldn't have been laughed at would they?:rolleyes:
I suppose that says it all about you, i know there are a few lefty types on here but i've seen none of them make a comment like that, anyone who thinks its funny needs to re-evaluate what drives them, and it seems in this case for you politics is more important than human life, thank god not all are like you

I always said leftism is a form of mental illness, you just proved it.

Anyway........

Coronavirus: possible news of where it originated from, sounds very suspect to me.

Harvard professor among three charged with lying about Chinese government ties

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/28/...chinese-nationals-arrest-espionage/index.html
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUHh4WoX0AA74sU?format=jpg&name=large

CCN okay or just another CT?
 
Conspiracy and cranks

The economy will bounce quickly back when unleashed, what price do you put on someone’s death? Me thinks your a selfish knob.

Did you read the Guardian article linked up yesterday? Many experts don't agree with what's happening. Btw it's "you're"
 
Something not right about all this. Benefits of lockdown don't outweigh the damage to the economy, our way of life etc imo.
This will start to be challenged more and more the longer it goes on, particularly when the warm weather arrives May / June.

Unless of course there's something we're not being told. And why isn't the rest of the world kicking off with China whose fault this is?

I'm already at that point, as well.

A lockdown that isn't a lockdown and guarantees the virus will be endemic, whilst at the same time completely destroying the economy. After this, there won't be a working class. The high Street will be dead, small and medium businesses will be all but gone. Everyone will have to rely on the state for every penny. Travel will be severely restricted. The complete suppression of religious freedom. Complete control over your own body.

All for a virus with minimal mortality rate.

It's disturbing, to say the least.
 
I'm already at that point, as well.

A lockdown that isn't a lockdown and guarantees the virus will be endemic, whilst at the same time completely destroying the economy. After this, there won't be a working class. The high Street will be dead, small and medium businesses will be all but gone. Everyone will have to rely on the state for every penny. Travel will be severely restricted. The complete suppression of religious freedom. Complete control over your own body.

All for a virus with minimal mortality rate.

It's disturbing, to say the least.

No white text?
 
I'm already at that point, as well.

A lockdown that isn't a lockdown and guarantees the virus will be endemic, whilst at the same time completely destroying the economy. After this, there won't be a working class. The high Street will be dead, small and medium businesses will be all but gone. Everyone will have to rely on the state for every penny. Travel will be severely restricted. The complete suppression of religious freedom. Complete control over your own body.

All for a virus with minimal mortality rate.

It's disturbing, to say the least.

Bollocks

Stop being a knob
 
I'm already at that point, as well.

A lockdown that isn't a lockdown and guarantees the virus will be endemic, whilst at the same time completely destroying the economy. After this, there won't be a working class. The high Street will be dead, small and medium businesses will be all but gone. Everyone will have to rely on the state for every penny. Travel will be severely restricted. The complete suppression of religious freedom. Complete control over your own body.

All for a virus with minimal mortality rate.

It's disturbing, to say the least.

https://twitter.com/hemantmehta/status/1244344119545208834

No idea why suppression of some parts of religion would be a bad thing. :confused:
 
I'm already at that point, as well.

A lockdown that isn't a lockdown and guarantees the virus will be endemic, whilst at the same time completely destroying the economy. After this, there won't be a working class. The high Street will be dead, small and medium businesses will be all but gone. Everyone will have to rely on the state for every penny. Travel will be severely restricted. The complete suppression of religious freedom. Complete control over your own body.

All for a virus with minimal mortality rate.

It's disturbing, to say the least.

I see SDB's using his other log-in whilst on enforced hiatus.
 
I'm already at that point, as well.

A lockdown that isn't a lockdown and guarantees the virus will be endemic, whilst at the same time completely destroying the economy. After this, there won't be a working class. The high Street will be dead, small and medium businesses will be all but gone. Everyone will have to rely on the state for every penny. Travel will be severely restricted. The complete suppression of religious freedom. Complete control over your own body.

All for a virus with minimal mortality rate.

It's disturbing, to say the least.

I see you've got a fair bit of stick for this so I'm going to tread carefully with a response of a different order.

While I disagree with your predictions of what will be here beyond the present situation (I actually believe there may be some positives out of it), I can't help but have some sympathy with yourself and others who are questioning the extent of the response compared to the extent of the threat.

In fact, I'd go as far as to say that we should be asking those questions. For that reason I'm particularly interested to see how things pan out in Sweden.

We are currently preparing vast medical units in buildings that were prepared for other purposes. We are accelerating manufacture of medical aids and research for vaccinations. We are inviting former NHS workers back and ensuring that, belatedly, those staff who are providing care get the help and support they need to do the job.

If we had done all the above, and provided advice/restrictions on movement of people in vulnerable groups, and pumped the money and resources (which are now being handed out to cover the cost of the shutdown) to the NHS, why could we not have allowed everyone else to crack on as before?
 
I see you've got a fair bit of stick for this so I'm going to tread carefully with a response of a different order.

While I disagree with your predictions of what will be here beyond the present situation (I actually believe there may be some positives out of it), I can't help but have some sympathy with yourself and others who are questioning the extent of the response compared to the extent of the threat.

In fact, I'd go as far as to say that we should be asking those questions. For that reason I'm particularly interested to see how things pan out in Sweden.

We are currently preparing vast medical units in buildings that were prepared for other purposes. We are accelerating manufacture of medical aids and research for vaccinations. We are inviting former NHS workers back and ensuring that, belatedly, those staff who are providing care get the help and support they need to do the job.

If we had done all the above, and provided advice/restrictions on movement of people in vulnerable groups, and pumped the money and resources (which are now being handed out to cover the cost of the shutdown) to the NHS, why could we not have allowed everyone else to crack on as before?

Alot of people will be asking these questions in about 2 weeks time .
 
Why do posts keep being removed? Someone posted at 12.16 regarding the situation in Sweden
 
I see you've got a fair bit of stick for this so I'm going to tread carefully with a response of a different order.

While I disagree with your predictions of what will be here beyond the present situation (I actually believe there may be some positives out of it), I can't help but have some sympathy with yourself and others who are questioning the extent of the response compared to the extent of the threat.

In fact, I'd go as far as to say that we should be asking those questions. For that reason I'm particularly interested to see how things pan out in Sweden.

We are currently preparing vast medical units in buildings that were prepared for other purposes. We are accelerating manufacture of medical aids and research for vaccinations. We are inviting former NHS workers back and ensuring that, belatedly, those staff who are providing care get the help and support they need to do the job.

If we had done all the above, and provided advice/restrictions on movement of people in vulnerable groups, and pumped the money and resources (which are now being handed out to cover the cost of the shutdown) to the NHS, why could we not have allowed everyone else to crack on as before?

Don't worry about the response. Mundanes will be mundanes. You can teach ignorance, but you can't teach stupidity. People who are unable to think for themselves will always retreat into Groupthink during testing times.

It's mainstream economists that are saying it, GS.

https://reaction.life/economic-impact-of-coronavirus-crisis-is-unparalleled-in-modern-times/

https://www.esquire.com/uk/life/a31915611/coronavirus-timeline/

Meanwhile the Imperial College, whose broken model is one of the reasons for the overreaction, is now proposing a Carbon Tax to claw back the money Government spends during the crisis.

Taken together, the expert opinion is saying exactly what I'm saying:

Eradication of working class to be replaced by Professional consumers.
Eradication of high street in favour of online portals such as Amazon.
Massive new taxes on Carbon that will effect the freedoms of many, many people's lives, from their businesses, to their choice of foods, to where they can travel.

Meanwhile:

https://www.independentsentine.....ed-from-it-directly/

According to the Professor, only 12% of the Italians who have died have actually died of the coronavirus.

The problem is Governments are saying that anyone who dies and has the virus are being listed as dying OF the virus, massively inflating the mortality rate. The actual reality is their deaths are from other things, like heart failure.

In Germany where they are far more specific, the mortality rate is a paltry 0.3%.

As you say, serious questions are going to be increasingly asked. There's a point coming soon when what we have to lose is far greater than anything we have to gain. The Financial Crisis of 2008 cost an additional 260,000 lives due to cancer. How many are going to die from the economic catastrophe being enacted now?
 
I see I've been moved to the Conspiracy and Cranks thread on the Sweet and Sour Forum. :confused:

Lol, me too. Basically anyone not agreeing with the Govt line on this is considered a crank :D
 
Did u know that prior to the coronavirus, on average 1400 people died each day in the UK

I seen stats published about Bergamo which said about same number of deaths this month to month last year.

Testament to the stout stewardship of the Conservative Party. Under Corbyn it would have been 5 times that amount, cunt.

So why are we locked in our houses.:mad:


The facts are starting to become rather uncomfortable. People need to be brave enough to really question things, because what's happening is going to be utterly life-changing for millions round the globe.
 
I’m hearing full lockdown on the way from Weds (no walks, bike rides or runs). Only essential/emergency travel only.
 
I’m hearing full lockdown on the way from Weds (no walks, bike rides or runs). Only essential/emergency travel only.

What a fucking joke if true.
How the fuck are people meant to exercise, more will die from obesity than coronavirus :rolleyes:
Now the gym closed I go for a jog in the local park 3 times a week, don't go within 5 metres of anyone, i'm a zero fucking risk :mad:

edit: think it is bollocks as there is nothing about it even on twitter which is full of bullshit. So much fake news about.
 
I’m hearing full lockdown on the way from Weds (no walks, bike rides or runs). Only essential/emergency travel only.

Rubbish as the majority are sticking to the rules now push further and risk of rebellion.
 
I’m hearing full lockdown on the way from Weds (no walks, bike rides or runs). Only essential/emergency travel only.

If that comes in we are in big trouble trying to control the population.

They govern by consent of the people. That won't last long with those measures.
 
What a fucking joke if true.
How the fuck are people meant to exercise, more will die from obesity than coronavirus :rolleyes:
Now the gym closed I go for a jog in the local park 3 times a week, don't go within 5 metres of anyone, i'm a zero fucking risk :mad:

edit: think it is bollocks as there is nothing about it even on twitter which is full of bullshit. So much fake news about.

Voices in your head ?

Rubbish as the majority are sticking to the rules now push further and risk of rebellion.

Same sauce who got the date of school closure right, that was about 10 days ahead of them actually happening.

It's probably bollocks though.
 
Official conspiracy thread, all opinions and topics welcome

Seeing as the Trump thread is getting derailed, why not post on here instead? Any conspiracy, any opinion and any link.

I'll start for those who don't think we went to the moon

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Seeing as the Trump thread is getting derailed, why not post on here instead? Any conspiracy, and opinion and any link.

I'll start for those who don't think we went to the moon

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Blimey.....Of course we launched from our round planet in a spaceship that landed on a planet made of cheese!

Life on the moon was proved in a daily documentary series called The Clangers years ago as well.

The bloke wearing the tin foil hat early on reminded me of De Gea facing a pelanty! :D
 
Blimey.....Of course we launched from our round planet in a spaceship that landed on a planet made of cheese!

Life on the moon was proved in a daily documentary series called The Clangers years ago as well.

The bloke wearing the tin foil hat early on reminded me of De Gea facing a pelanty! :D

:D

We olduns know Flakey, because we lived through it.

Never liked The Clangers though.
 
Excellent idea for a thread about conspiracies. Plenty of scope for mega-bullshit and hilarity ripping the piss out SDB. If he turns up in here then I'm definitely taking the crazy cunt off ignore. :D
 
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